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Room for Thought: Europe - a Leaver and Remainer talk across the divide
Charles Grant, director of the Centre for European Reform and Douglas Carswell discussed thier differing views of Europe in this interview.
Fed-up with the shouting match between leave and remain?
Listen to two people on either side of the debate - one a co-founder of the Leave campaign, the other a committed EUrophile - listen to each other.
What is the best way to organise a continent of 500 million people? Why has the EU stifled innovation? What sort of relationship should Britain have with the EU once we've left?