Back Story podcast: Ukraine - war in Europe

On this Back Story podcast we talk to Ian Bond, from the Centre for European Reform and a former British Diplomat on the chances of a direct clash with Russia and NATO and Putins state of mind.

And Dr. Ben Connable, a retired Marine Corps intelligence officer, a senior nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council,  professor of security studies at Georgetown University. And author of an article for RealClearDefense, “Troop-to-Task: A Russian invasion of Ukraine.” What would it actually take for Putin to invade and occupy Ukraine and what are the risks for Russia?